S.T.SUIT & CO. CARDS

Here are a couple of additional S.T. Suit & Co. trade cards. 

This one is keeping with his "political theme" in the naming and marketing of his Kentucky whiskies. 
We have a Capitol, a Senate, and Congress brands.  Others?? 

 Suit purchased a large tract of property in Maryland,  near Washington D.C. in 1867.  This farm later became known as "Suitland".  It is now basically a suburb of our capitol city.

This card has been trimmed of the words "fine Kentucky Whiskies".   This was a fleabay pickup a few months ago.  I don't know what this building is or was.   Possibly his warehouse in Louisville. 

Suit attempted to corner the market on fine bourbon in 1872, but ran into difficulty.  His new warehouse, while under contruction in 1872,  had a section collapse due to a design flaw I presume.  Before they could get it reinforced  and shored up a strong windstorm reduced the entire structure to a pile of rubble.

Jordan, Giles & Co. were successors to Suit in Louisville in 1873.  

The Suitland farm, and products from that operation,  became very popular in the 1880's.



  
My tradecards do not have the name of a liquor dealer or company on the reverse.   I have kept a sharp eye out for some of these cards with the name of our 'local boys' on the reverse.  WALKER BROS. 
Still looking!!

THE WAITING GAME...

It was Aug. of 1977 when I first scoped-out the property where several 1890's Victorian houses stand. Being located in the heart of the central district of a very old Northern Cal town, I suspected there may have been an earlier home or even several earlier homes on this property well before the 1890's. A look at the older Sanborn maps quickly confirmed my theory, showing just one house sitting in the middle of where three Victorians now stand. Next step was to obtain permission to search for empty bourbon containers. After getting the usual "run around" from several different tenants, I was told the owners lived a few blocks away. I knocked on their door, and a nice older oriental gentleman answered the door. I gave him my spiel, and he nodded his head many times in agreement to what I was asking to do. Just as I was thinking "wow, that was easy", an older lady appeared out of nowhere next to the door, and she wasnt happy. She started yelling at him in her native tongue and literally karate kicked him in the ass right in front of me. I felt sorry for the poor guy, as he now started to motion his head towards me in the "no, no" manner. Well, that was that. Over the next 15 yrs I stopped by and talked to them several more times, hoping the lady had just been visiting or had moved away. No such luck, as she was always there, and shut the door on me a little sooner each time I showed up. I even had one of my partners call them about 10 yrs ago ! Of course, she answered...

Well, last month I saw what I'd been hoping for the past 32 yrs.... a "SOLD" sign on the front of the places. A few phone calls later, my partner and I had permission to dig ! The 'waiting game' finally paid off. I had outlasted the wicked witch from the far east !

This past Saturday we headed out for the town and the lot. The only downer was that there were now 2 concrete carport slabs in the backyard. When I first scoped-out the place 30 + yrs ago, it was wide open. A closer look revealed a 3 foot wide dirt boarder around 3 sides of the slab. I just KNEW this place had to have good bottles..... it had to. If you wait 32 yrs, something good has to be cooking in there for all that time, or so we seem to always think ! I had to stay optimistic, since I was determined to get bottles from that yard after waiting so long. I probed one side of the strip next to the slab, and my partner probed the other strip on the West side. Bummer, there was also 'fill' added to the lot, probably when they put in the carports. Geez.....I was now thinking, "can this dig get any worse" ?? Oh, and if you guys know what 'clean fill' is... this wasn't it. The fill was 2-3 feet deep and consisted of a foot of broken concrete pcs on top followed by dirt with rocks below. About an hour later my partner announced he had 2 privy sites located in the strip on the West side that he was working. It took him an hour of attempting to snake the probe around all the BS to thoroughly probe the 50' long narrow 3' wide strip.

After throwing chunks of concrete off of the top of where the 2 privies were located, shovels were now whaling dirt from both holes that were opened-up simultaneously. The hole closer to the house site appeared newer right off the bat, with lots of evidence up high. Not a good sign, in two respects... new and possibly ABD. The other hole was a little further back and was clean until about 4 1/2 feet, where it broke into a layer of bottles layed-in side by side. They were mostly late 80's -early 90's, and the best part was it hadnt been dug. It was non-ABD ! The first pit continued to produce nothing but shards, and upon hitting the bottom at about 7', we officially declared it 'Double ABD" ! My partner in the non-ABD hollared out... "I got an embossed coffin flask" ! That's always exciting, as any seasoned digger knows they turn-up far too seldom, and you're always expecting every coffin to be just another 'slick'. I'm hovering over the hole now, just like an over zealous property owner does to us on occasion, trying not to give my partner a dirt pile shower. He holds it up, and it's an intact clear slug-plate Phoenix coffin, and we agree that things are now looking up.

I'm now up in front of the carports working on opening a 'floater hole' out in the center of the yard. About every 10 mins my partner is shouting "it's jammed" ....... and I can hear the clanking and ringing of the plates and broken bottles being tossed out of his pit. I started feeling like a rabbit jumping out of my hole every 15 mins to see the latest find in his pit. My hole was late 60s-early 7'0's but very sparse and unexciting compared to the other hole, especially when he yells out " cobalt soda showin". I hop out again, and by the time I get over the piles and peek down, it's already out, and it's a broken Owen Casey. This was significant though, as we both knew we now had entered the "golden age for bourbons".... the mid to late 1870's ! Back in my pit, I hit onto a nice unusual Underwood's peppersauce bottle that appears to have just missed pontil. Next, I come across a broken Walker's V.B. in deep green. About 20 mins later I hear another shout from the other hole, "I got an embossed 1/5 showin". I do my rabbit out of the hole routine, and I'm hovering again. It's broken...... he says " looks like an olive green Star/Shield", and hands the base up to me. I rub the rest of the soil off and look at it, quickly noticing that the base is plain and the "R"s are curved. Knowing that only the varient 3 star-base Star/Shield has curved "R"s, I quickly determine

it to be a broken S.H.M. and announce the news to my partner. He pauses and looks up at me in amazement. Things have now changed once again for the better, as we both realize we are in a potentially high-powered whiskey hole ! More 70s bottles come out, meds, several hairs, and utilities. I jump back into my hole and polish the bottom off shortly soon after, as it was only 4' deep and very sparse. Pulling down the upper walls, I come across a broken Garland's Cough Drops in killer dark fire aqua with a single collar flying saucer top that has a sloppy long drip on one side. What a gem that one would've been ! Moments later, I hear the all too familiar shout "I got another fifth showin". I quickly jump out again and watch the slow process of digging around the bottle. This time he can see the Fleur de Lis monogram and we both know it's another S.H.M. Meanwhile, hearts are pounding ,until he gets just below the shoulder on one side and says "it's broken". Looking at it, I could see it was from the exact same olive colored batch of SF glass as the first broken one, and even more amazing, probably was from the same batch as another olive example I found nearby over 25 yrs ago. We're bummed, but know there is still more hole left. Minutes later another whiskey comes out, and this time it's whole, but it's just an unembossed 1/6 with a gnarly off center glob top. A good find on any normal day, but not when you are digging S.H.M.'s in olive green-amber !!

Even though we didnt score the killer intact 1/5, the "waiting game" still paid off for me. Just finally being able to dig that place, know what was buried there, and to have all the fun and excitement of almost finding 2 olive S.H.M's was worth it in itself. Whether it be digging, or waiting for a good 1/5 to come your way to purchase, the "waiting game" is a necessary evil, and more often than not, worth playing !

Comparison photo of one of the recently dug broken S.H.M's and another example found 25 yrs ago nearby...most likely from same batch of SF Glass. Could there be more ???

S.T.Suits

I believe that the bottle use to sell the Suits products were the shoulder embossed bottle that just says S.T.Suits. There has been a few of these found in Northern California.

S.T. Suit anyone?

Yesterday, while pawing through a pile of trade cards with puppies, kittens, and anything else that my three year old grand daughter found interesting, I stumbled across a San Francisco newspaper ad from 1872 that I had forgotten about years ago.
Talk about uniting east and west! The association of A. P. Hotaling with Milton J. Hardy and C.P. Moorman has been well documented by Thomas in Whiskey Bottle of the Old West. The discovery of this ad just ties up the loose ends a little more neatly and also adds a positive date stamp to the relationships. The ad plainly pictures the embossing pattern found on Barnett #'s 234 & 235 / Thomas #'s 37 & 39; J. H. Cutter Old Bourbon and J. H. Cutter Pure Old Rye - C. P. Moorman.

The embossed Milton J. Hardy Bourbon variant is an extreme rarity but has always been considered eastern in origin,

while the base embossed MJH has always been something of a mystery.




To the best of my knowledge, all the base embossed MJH's have been dug in the west. The cylinder has all the earmarks of being blown on the west coast and my guess is that they were blown at Hotalings direction and paper labeled for a period of time until Moormans Cutter A. No 1 and Cutter OK whiskies began to gain a foothold.




OK, so much for neat tie ins and killer glop tops. What really tripped my tigger was what I spotted on the reverse side of the ad, neatly hidden away in the middle of the page. Check out the plug by W.W. Dodge and Co., with offices in both San Francisco and Sacramento.









Anyone up for digging an S.T. Suit? The possibilities are endless!

Merry Christmas!

I wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, and a happy New Year! I appreciate the relationships I have developed in this wonderful hobby. Thank You!

Miller's Extra

Awesome Jewel sliced down to three carats.........

Well, it would've been too cool if this one had survived its dip in the wet privy pool ! Yesterday was the first time I'd ever turned pieces of this extremely rare glob-top fifth. At first I wasn't even sure which fifth it was, then my partner pointed out the diamonds on the sides, and that put us on the right track of diamonds...... to jewels. Only got about 2/3's of it, but that was enough to get the blood pumping, as it came out soon and up high in the hole. Of course there's always some kind of a "hook" to get you to dig a nasty or difficult hole, but it's usually not of such a high caliber as a John S. Bowman Jewel Old Bourbon Sole Agents S.F.

The bottom layer was '70's, but no bourbons were to be found from that era.... not even pcs. The guy was strictly a wino and an ale drinker in the '70's. The Jewel may have been a gift from someone to celebrate a birth or something in 1886, as this bottle was made only in that year. Surely if he was a real bourbon drinker, a few Cutters or Moore's would've been part of the mix !

The base has a dimple in the center of an 8-pointed ray or star. These appear to be "western blown", as the glass became very sparkley after scrubbing the mud off, and the star is similar to those found on earlier Western unembossed fifths. My count is seven intact examples of the Jewel Old Bourbon. There is also a very similar amber pint coffin flask, but for some reason is embossed "Old Jewel Bourbon" instead of "Jewel Old Bourbon". This brand has a really crazy distribution pattern (basically no pattern at all ! ), as whole examples of the flask and fifth have turned-up mostly on singular occasions all from different towns throughout Ca, Nv, and Az. I'm not aware of any being found in different holes in the same town.

What went wrong?

Last evening a very scarce and sought after glop top closed on ebay. Listed as "Livingstone's Western Glob Top Whiskey w/whittling Rare" lot number 360214238214, it should have created a veritable feeding frenzy. Opening at a reasonable $1200~, I'd expected it to bring at least $1750~. Instead, only two bidders competed for bragging rights and it closed at a weak $1225~.

So what the heck went wrong? Simple, lousy pictures
and a lousy description.


Initially described as "Livingstone's Whiskey bottle, a western glob top, with whittling" there was no mention of condition. Later, in a belated attempt to more accurately describe condition, the seller added the following " It is free of chips and cracks with the following exceptions: in response to a bidder request, we re-examined this bottle and found three small nicks or "flea-bites" on the bottom, on the rim. We are including a scan we did of the bottom, to better illustrate these small defects. Imagining that the base is a clock dial, the largest nick is at about 9 oclock. There is a tiny flea bite at 11 oclock and there is one other slight nick at 4 oclock. The football shaped object towards the bottom of our clock dial is an embedded bubble. The only other defect in this bottle is on one side, near the seam, about 3/8" from the bottom, a tiny pin-prick which appears to be a tiny bubble that "popped." A poor quality black and white scan of the base was also attached.



Ya just gotta love these technical descriptions... Big flea? Little flea? Happy flea? Flea with a bad attitude? Come On!

In an attempt to nail down the true condition, I emailed "In regards to the Livingston Blackberry Brandy; You state ""flea-bites" on the bottom, on the rim.

Could you please provide dimensions in regards to the described damage? IE: "largest nick is at about 9 oclock, measures 3mm in length, 2mm in width and is 3mm in depth". I've found that detailed, subjective descriptions take all the guess work out of a purchase.

The bottle is fairly scarce but damage to a higher end western whiskey can make or break the desirability.

Thanks~"

I never heard back in regards to this inquiry or a follow up. Was the seller out of town or just trying to let the cards fall as they may? Guess we'll never know. Having been bitten more often than I'd care to admit on ebay, I opted not to place a bid until I heard back.

My guess is that I'm not the only one...

JUDGE THROWN IN PRIVY HOLE IS RESCUED BY BOTTLE DIGGERS !

Yes, this Judge, after being thrown under the privy bench over 120 years ago, was recently rescued from a well hidden, shallow pit in Northern Ca. If it wasn't for the efforts of my partners and myself launching an intense 'probathon', the Newmark Gruenberg Judge would've remained silenced for another generation. He's now granted himself probation and resides under house arrest on my whiskey shelf, in between his predecessor Kane-O'Leary, and his much younger successor, S.B. Rothenberg !

After the gavel was passed to them from Kane-O'Leary in late 1882, Newmark Gruenberg served up Old Judge Bourbon from the bench only from 1883-1885, , . In 1886 Gruenberg bought out Newmark and had his own bottles made for a year or two.

This dig was exciting, as it was filled with anticipation after waiting many years to explore this site. A recent change in ownership prompted a renewed effort that resulted in successfully obtaining permission to hunt for old bourbons and other Western preparations. A very sparse older pit yielded a broken var 1 JF Cutter in light olive-amber and a few very early S.F. Jamaica Gingers, which coincidentally seem to often hang out with Western liquor containers.

Out of the many bottles and relics recovered from numerous pits, the Old Judge was the lone intact fifth, and probably only survived because it was on the front side of an already sparse pit.

Hopefully, this will be the start of a run of intact Western fifths !

Early and Often~

Kinda sums it up now, doesn't it? Truth be known; it sounds like an accurate description of our annual house boating trip...

As many of you know, I developed a penchant for hoarding and displaying honest labeled western whiskies back in the seventies when most folks were scrubbing the labels off the bottles in order to better appreciate the glass. Me, well, a simple mind equals simple pleasures. It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that paper rots away long before glass. And contrary to what I used to tell my wife (back when I was young enough to care), I really didn't read the articles, I just looked at the pictures~ To me, the western whiskey label is the centerfold on the bottle and the rest is, well, pretty much just an article.

A while back I posted an article about the labeled and embossed Tea Kettle that showed up on my doorstep. Never a day goes by that I don't pay my respects to Shea, Bocqueraz and McKee for that bit of sunshine in my collection.

Too tell the truth though, my all time favorite was produced for Jacob Goldberg, Charles and Henry Bowen, and Louis Lebenbaum. The firm of Goldberg, Bowen & Lebenbaum was in business for a relatively short period of time (1892-1895), and were located at 426-432 Pine in San Francisco. The firm was officially listed as Importers of Wines And Liquors and Commercial and Retail grocers. Their grocery outlets were located at 432 Pine and 215 Sutter.



In 1892, they contracted with a German Glass factory, (probably Gerresheimer Glashuettenwerk of the Dusseldorf region) through Abramson - Heunisch Co. of S.F., who were jobbers of bottles, corks etc., etc. and had a run of clear applied top cylinder fifths blown. The bottles were embossed "Bottled By / Goldberg, Bowen, / & Lebenbaum / Importers of / Wines And Liquors / 426 To 432 Pine St. / S. F." A large company logo is located above this at the shoulder at the top of this full faced embossing pattern.


The quality of the bottles left something to be desired and most all display with small flashes or checks and other production related issues attributable to poor annealing at the glass factory. Most of this variant are also heavily whittled and display with extreme crudity. One small production run was produced with a mis-spelling and Liquors is spelled Liquops. It is estimated that fewer than a half dozen of the mis-spelled variant are in collections at this time.


They contracted with L. Schmidt & Co. / lithographers to have a label plate cut for a new brand of whiskey called Early & Often. The neck label has directions for the "proper use" of the product and the main body label pictures typical Victorian scroll work and the sun rising above the main body of the label. .
There are believed to be two or three of these examples currently in collections. Two of the labeled examples are on the rare mis-spelled variant of this bottle


Lebenbaum left the partnership in 1895. The 1897 Crocker Langley directory lists Louis as an importing grocer and tea & wine merchant in partnership with Jesse Meyerfeld located at 236 Sutter and residing at 1522 O'Farrell.

Goldberg Bowen & Co. continued forward, weathering the setback caused by the Great San Francisco Earthquake and Fire of 1906, and remained prosperous as commercial and retail grocers, even after prohibition had forced most of the wholesale liquor dealers in the city to close their doors.

"Slickers"!

Yesterday's privy dig did kick out a couple of globbies, but both had no embossing. Maybe the letters fled as our tools approached them. LOL That's the way diggin goes. Not every pit has "glory". This one was just a few years too old to hold embossed whiskeys and the saving grace was a couple of blue Owen Casey sodas. The amber coffin was a late throw that was found above the actual use layer.

REVISITING SOME OLDER POSTS

Here are some ads that surfaced again when sorting all my files and junk.   We have written about these topics in the past and you may find these interesting.

E. Chielovich was out in the "wilds" of Eastern Nevada in 1869 trying to grow the market for Jesse Moore Bourbon.   Obviously, this is a couple of years before the embossed J.Moore bottle made an appearance.   Outfitting saloons was a significant part of the early San Francisco liqour dealers distribution method.  

Chielovich supplied, "fitted up", and/or "managed" saloons in several early Nevada towns.

DAVY CROCKETT - PURE OLD BOURBON   label.   This blown up  from an envelope or advertising cover.

Here is a cool Renz Wholesale Dealer ad that I had printed once before.  It comes from an 1882 issue of the San Francisco paper, the WASP. 

Renz's Blackberry Brandy,  Renz's Herb Bitters and Bonanza Bourbon Whiskey represented.

Brass signs

I know that this is a bit off topic, but sometimes we collect things that aren't related to applied top fifths or flasks. The subject of these two signs is the brand that the A.P.Hotaling Co chose as it's flagship brand after divesting itself of the J.H.Cutter whiskies. Although only sold in paper labeled bottles, the Old Kirk Whiskey was a popular product, earning another fortune for Hotaling's heirs.

I found these privy dug pieces while rummaging around in the garage getting my duck hunting gear gathered up. They aren't good enough to come inside, so they stay in the garage, along with old barrel ends and boxes. Eventually, I'll get around to polishing them up and hang 'em up on the outside of the garage.

A real Zinger of a "Bottled By" Cutter!

Here's something totally unique that traded hands recently, thought I'd share a few pictures before it leaves here for its new home. It's a "BOTTLED BY" Cutter blown in a light yellow amber with an applied top with heavy bands of dark puce swirls throughout. I've never seen such intense swirling like this in any embossed Western 5th. Kinda reminds me of the tornado out of the Wizard Of Oz as it's only a dream to find something like this with any embossed Western bottle.

What is THAT?

Ok, I know that is is probably some type of criminal offense to post a Western medicine on the whiskey blog... I do love those early meds though, and though this is not the forum to post an early S.F. med, this is a pretty interesting one!" Dr. AH Fung Great Chinese Remedy, J.S. Mc Cue , Agent S.F. " Huh? Mc Cue? Yes, there it is! Was Mr. McCue into the medicine game? Lots of questions but one thing is for sure, this medicine may not be quite as rare as an Old Signet, but close. He obviously embossed something with his name...here is the proof. Looks 1873 ish to me.

M.E.

GREEN FIFTH

MIRROR - MIRROR ON THE WALL   ***    WHO'S THE GREENEST FIFTH OF ALL

Well,  back in 1997 it was this Thos. Taylor  Virginia, N(t-151) that took the prize!    I was cleaning out some old folders and ran across some photos of the Downieville Whiskey Extravaganza of 1997.   There was some stiff competition from a well known 'beer label town' Clubhouse,  and   'Old Cutters'  smokin' J.H.Cutter(t-49) was looking pretty strong.   By popular vote?  the Mayor's Tommy T. was the chosen winner.

"SMILING"  Bob F.  with the meanest, greenest fifth!!   A Nevada bottle to boot!!

I'd be a smiling too,  if I owned that bottle!

I don't know if anything more green has come out of the ground in the past 12 years.                             Come on... let's see it.

JOCKEY CLUB

Keeping up the theme of bottles we have not talked about before,  here is an early one.   Jockey Club(t-19)
These are only known in the sixth size,  and seem to run in the early 70's era.   George Chesley was a pioneer merchant and liquor dealer opening a store in Sacramento in 1855.  He had been a very early arrival to California, pre gold rush,  and had gained experience running an auction business or commission house in early San Francisco. 
According to Wilson,  Chesley opened up a 'liquor house in the heart of the San Francisco liquor district' in 1872 and for a few years traveled back and forth between his warehouse in S.F. and the store in Sacto.  In 1877 he turned the San Francisco business over to an agent. 

This broken one was found a few years ago in eastern Nevada.

I found two additional broken examples in the eastern side of the State.

Not too many around,  would rate as very rare.  Several beautiful, whittled,  greenish examples are known.

Later the brand was sold by E.A. Fargo of San Francisco.

Does anyone have any additional information to share on Geo. Chesley?  E.A. Fargo?   Please pass it along.

DENAVEAUX - MAISON

Another story of two of a kind rare globs is this extremely rare DENAVEAUX and MAISON(t-61).   Years ago,  late 60's-early 70's,  two of these were picked up from an I-80 antique shop/ rock shop/ junk shop somewhere between Lovelock and Wells.  I don't know where exactly,  but a long time Salt Lake collector happened upon them on his way home and knew enough about whiskey bottles to take a chance at 'a hunerd' for the pair.  He unloaded both of them quickly,  one went to the Owen Collection,  the other was sold locally and fell out of sight... until three years ago. 
  
When I purchased the Owen Collection a few years ago,  I obtained Blackie's "little black book" of collectors that he knew and bottles that were on his radar from the 1960's-70's.  Obviously, that little book has been very interesting!!  I was able to track down the family of the owner of that second Denaveaux and Maison.   The two Maison's were back together again,  well, for a few months anyway....

Another transitional fifth,  at least one of the known examples is a tool top.   Airvented,  so it is not real crude,  though this one has a bit of whittle.   A very pretty bottle and a rare one!   Still just a handful in western collections.

DAVY CROCKETT

I was excited to hear that Dale had acquired this nice example of a globby top Davy Crockett(t-73).   I had just presumed that he had purchased the example that Bruce -aka "Kentucky Gem" was able to land as part of the old time collection as reported a couple of weeks ago.   NOT SO FAST... it turns out there are two globby Davy's that have found new homes. 












Bruce is more than thrilled to have added his Davy Crockett to the fold,  and was/is in no hurry to send it down the line.   I guess they had both of them at the Canyonville Show to do a little comparing.


A transitional era bottle,  common with a tool top,  only a very few known with a glob top.

Interesting that two examples would be reported within a week of each other.  

I'm puttin on the old coon-skin cap and headin for the woods....  well, maybe I'll wait 'till next April...  I'd sure like to find one of these.