I dug a couple of those from a pit in Eureka back in the mid-'70s. Gawd, they were pretty bottles. Of course, in those days all they brought was a few "Benjamins". That bottle should rise a teensy bit more afore all is said and done.
Judging from the photo the style of the top on this bottle, I would say it is most likely one of the rare Reddish (they come in orange too)German varients of the "&Co" Gilt Edges. There are less than 6 of these known and most came from the logging areas on the Russian River. This one looks like the example that was in Angelo T. collection yrs ago.
It seems like the one on ebay sold for an extremely weak price for such a nice looking, RARE Whiskey?!?! Even the Thomas book shows this bottle at a firm suggested value of $2,500.
I probably would've bid on it if I didn't have a few possible deals in the works.
Is the Thomas book way off with the suggested price or did this one sell to a very lucky winner?
In 1981 I found this bottle with Angelo in Guerneville Cal along the Russian River. When I lived there we dug darn near every yard in that town over a 5 year period. We dug into the hole this bottle came from 3 feet and filled er in after finding a clear machine made un-embossed junker 5th, to new. Almost a year later and with fewer places left to dig we decided to go back and dig the hole out in hopes of maybe finding a few milks, we thought it was that new. I dug down past where we stopped and then went through a clean 2' plug layer. Once through the plug and into the use layer it was embossed 5ths on top of 5ths, they were stacked in there like cord wood. I was blown away at all the good 5ths that came out of that hole and the fact too that we let it sit for almost a year after finding it. There were 17 embossed 80s 5ths that came out of that hole including an extremely rare clear full face Old Gilt Edge and dozens of other busted brands. Research later reveled that this was where one of the mill owners had lived that operated the huge sawmill along the River. Some of my fondest memories took place there along that river some 30 years ago. www.oldwestbottles.com
I placed a $1200 max bid and left for a planned dinner party for my brother's B-day. I saw the result after returning. Oh well, that's fleaBay. 'Ya gotta protect 'yer bid. I don't know why it interested me, must have been the "German" connection". That, and having dug one in Eureka back in the day. It was a gem.
Looks like you plead the 5th and were found guilty on ?? counts out of 17! Pls do refresh me on each charge ! How many Guilties, Cutters, Jesse's,Roths, etc...?? AP
Guilty on three counts that day! Two red hammer whittled 4-part mould and one clear flint glass two part mould. There were no Jessie's or Cutters in the mix. The one pictured here is just a stunning bottle & went unbelievably under priced, glad everyone was sleeping. I can only account for four examples with no damage of these extremely rare red whittled bottles. www.oldwestbottles.com
Howdy Oldcutters,
I dug a couple of those from a pit in Eureka back in the mid-'70s. Gawd, they were pretty bottles. Of course, in those days all they brought was a few "Benjamins". That bottle should rise a teensy bit more afore all is said and done.
ReplyDeleteNice Fifth Rick, Do these come in any colors? What kind of Scarce is this Beauty? DB
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ReplyDeleteNot sure how many of the applied top Gilt Edge's are accounted for. A.P. might be the guy to answer that.
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Judging from the photo the style of the top on this bottle, I would say it is most likely one of the rare Reddish (they come in orange too)German varients of the "&Co" Gilt Edges. There are less than 6 of these known and most came from the logging areas on the Russian River. This one looks like the example that was in Angelo T. collection yrs ago.
ReplyDeleteClosed at $1226 and change. A last second low life sniping rat. LOL
ReplyDeleteIt seems like the one on ebay sold for an extremely weak price for such a nice looking, RARE Whiskey?!?! Even the Thomas book shows this bottle at a firm suggested value of $2,500.
ReplyDeleteI probably would've bid on it if I didn't have a few possible deals in the works.
Is the Thomas book way off with the suggested price or did this one sell to a very lucky winner?
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ReplyDeleteIn 1981 I found this bottle with Angelo in Guerneville Cal along the Russian River. When I lived there we dug darn near every yard in that town over a 5 year period. We dug into the hole this bottle came from 3 feet and filled er in after finding a clear machine made un-embossed junker 5th, to new. Almost a year later and with fewer places left to dig we decided to go back and dig the hole out in hopes of maybe finding a few milks, we thought it was that new. I dug down past where we stopped and then went through a clean 2' plug layer. Once through the plug and into the use layer it was embossed 5ths on top of 5ths, they were stacked in there like cord wood. I was blown away at all the good 5ths that came out of that hole and the fact too that we let it sit for almost a year after finding it. There were 17 embossed 80s 5ths that came out of that hole including an extremely rare clear full face Old Gilt Edge and dozens of other busted brands. Research later reveled that this was where one of the mill owners had lived that operated the huge sawmill along the River. Some of my fondest memories took place there along that river some 30 years ago.
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I placed a $1200 max bid and left for a planned dinner party for my brother's B-day. I saw the result after returning. Oh well, that's fleaBay. 'Ya gotta protect 'yer bid. I don't know why it interested me, must have been the "German" connection". That, and having dug one in Eureka back in the day. It was a gem.
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ReplyDeleteLooks like you plead the 5th and were found guilty on ?? counts out of 17! Pls do refresh me on each charge ! How many Guilties, Cutters, Jesse's,Roths, etc...??
AP
Guilty on three counts that day! Two red hammer whittled 4-part mould and one clear flint glass two part mould. There were no Jessie's or Cutters in the mix. The one pictured here is just a stunning bottle & went unbelievably under priced, glad everyone was sleeping. I can only account for four examples with no damage of these extremely rare red whittled bottles.
ReplyDeletewww.oldwestbottles.com