Now remember it's not .44s we're talkin about here... this contest is for 43s.... T43's. (no A No 1 on reverse).
We have a couple of renegade gangs of t-43s here in Utah. That dang Groberg gang is going to be pretty tough to tangle with. I've got a few good hands, but they'll probably wilt when the contest gets heated. My ol' pard Blake has a real ki---- "Johnny Ringo". It was one of the last circles that I remember being dug over here, and it is smokin!
Now, we've already had a couple of these Cutter comparisons over here in years past. I am under no illusion as to where my best example stacks up. Doesn't matter!! I'm bringing them anyway. Just to see a big group of these in one place. One thing I know for sure, our comparisons over here produced an interesting discovery. There is a variant of this bottle mold that is obvious when you get a few of them lined up.
BRING YOUR T-43 CIRCLES AND ENJOY THE COCKTAILS AND
What say ye?
I like the shootout idea, that would certainly be entertaining. Then maybe line em all up accordingly for display and photos. I’ll be packin a six pack.........
ReplyDeleteWe’ve worked hard on readying the large gazebo display for the show. It’s a big effort and expense to transport the long distance, set-up & take down. Anyone who has bottles they'd like to share is encouraged to be a part of this once in a life time killer display.
My "six gun" is empty, so I'll stay in the saloon on this one.
ReplyDeleteMike,
DeleteI'll be hangin' in the saloon with ya. Emptied my six gun on 1911 Colts
I'm all out of "Circle" bullets too. Had to part with the ones I used to own awhile back & unfortunately that was just the start...now onto parting with some of the heavier non-Cutter whiskies in Reno.
ReplyDeleteCheck, Rick, I dumped a bunch for 1886 Winchesters. Gotta few left but no contenders. No heavy greens, just heavy whittles. At this point I'm happy with one example of each Hotaling mold. Just got a slayer PMSS.
ReplyDeleteMike,
ReplyDeleteNice, That's a rare one!
rs
Two ways to do this . Line them up and pick out the best one or put one out then another the winner stays out and the loser go's back in the box until all are looked at . Close calls could be put aside and a second round of judging would determine the winner.
ReplyDeleteAlso in the gazebo display it is whiskey , bitters ,inks , medi's, fruit jars ,insulators , soda's ,beer , historicals and whatever else in the glass hobby .I've been boasting that Saturday afternoon there will be upwards of two million dollars worth of glass in the display.I'm sure that there will be eye candy previously unseen by the majority of collectors .
RTS
We may want to consider best color and best character as two separate things for these bottles. I think the shootout is a fun idea but with the lack of response here it sure seems to have eliminated the many who have these bottles maybe for fear theirs won’t hold up. Although trying to get anyone involved in any kind of a display is usually pretty hard because most don’t care to make the effort and just want to look. More importantly just getting a number of these bottles together to view the wide spectrum of color and crudity is what it’s all about so maybe it shouldn’t be a competitive thing.
ReplyDeleteAre any bottles welcome in the display or only Western? Maybe some good colors of OP Lyon's Powders? Cundurangos for Western?
ReplyDeleteMike , any bottles ,north ,south ,east or west.As long as they are rare or an unusual specimen of a common bottle .Like a cobalt Hostetters???
DeleteAnd if I understand correctly, the gazebo submissions do not need to stay in place for the entire show? I know several collectors that are only attending on Saturday, so I can encourage them to bring items for the one day? Will there be someone continuously present at the display for check-in and check-out?
DeleteThe bottles do not need to stay for the whole show . I would think Saturday will be the biggest day .The bottles will be signed in and out.Example, if you sign it in your wife can't sign it out . We are planning to have someone there at all times and my sales tables are looking right at it and hired security will also be keeping an eye on it also .As it is now I don't know how many people are going to bring bottles for this . We stated acouple ,two or three or just one . A few of us are going to bring more so if we don't have enough bottles to keep it mostly full we will put more than 1-3 in the display. I will try to bring some interesting bottles .Anybody have any requests , as Mike said one time I have a black hole . Well I'll get into the pit and bring bottles people would like to see.Richard
DeleteA comment on the Cutter shootout... I think my attempt at humor in the post has sent the wrong signal. In the past we have had non-competitive comparisons of interesting bottles, most recently the Jockey Gin display at Auburn. These displays seem to be more successful when the competition theme is set aside and collectors just bring their bottles and line them up in a display for comparison and enjoyment, not necessarily competition. We have had these Circle Cutter displays here in UT. The first go round had 11-12 collectors bringing 30-35 bottles to view. It is interesting to see the variance in this bottle. Even though I had handled dozens of these bottles over the years, when they were sitting there next to each other I discovered some things I had never noticed before. Not just color, but mold variations.
ReplyDeleteI like collecting in sets or runs, and in the world of 5 and 6 figure bottles, I need something to keep interested. I agree with G.P., this type of display is most enjoyable when a large group of collectors participate. So if you have dug a Cutter t-43, bring it. If you have one that is whittled or odd shade of amber, bring them. Lets see how many we can get together for this display. Enjoy your bottles, have fun with your bottles. Thats what it's all about.
Well, I have dug dozens of T-43s and still have a few passable examples so will tote a couple along just for grins. Arguably, the Grobergs might have the best, but that will be seen. I dug a dark green one way back when in a pit full of many, but it had a sizable chip under the base so I sold it to Alan. I wonder if he still has it. If it was to do over it would have been kept, but chipped bottles don't excite me. That one could've been nicely repaired, though.
ReplyDeleteA non-competitive educational exhibit always brings out great examples of interesting bottles, no matter how common they are perceived to be bottle world. It isn't always rarity that average folks want to see, just nice bottles with character.
I have to agree that a non-competitive open display would likely bring out more examples. If it has a competitive theme about it, why would anyone bring out anything that doesn't match up to Joe Schmoe's wango tango, only one known, electric cobalt yellow green, super whittled T-43XXX. I can see it now: Joe's bottle sitting solo in the middle of a huge back lit showcase, wondering why others didn't come out to play. Yep, make it collector friendly--quality and volume can work hand-in-hand for an exciting joint display. Bring ‘em on, boys!
ReplyDeleteBoys ,do any way you want but Marty is going through the trouble of having am award made . It really doesn't matter to me If there is a hundred of them on display.But if you guys think that the whiskey collecters are going to stand there a not figure out which one is the best I've got some Arizona Lake Front Property I'd like to sell you. Whether or not it's competitive or not collectors are going to have their opinions . We did figure to fill up a case of them for viewing during the event. Richard
DeleteOf course collectors are going to admire the grouping and pick out their favorites. I just want to make sure we have a decent sized grouping. I like the idea of an award for the "top example", if that example can be identified. Mainly though, don't we just want collectors to participate? One bottle, two, six.... bring them in and join the fun. The Wistars/Jockey Club display in Auburn was very enjoyable. I remember someone saying to me as I was drooling open mouthed. "So, which one of those would you like to take home after the show". O.K, lets see....alright, tough choice, yup, there it is, that one would fit in 'nicely' on my shelf.... I HAVE A WINNER! How about you?
DeleteAncient history. All examples were excellent quality and were outstanding as a group.
ReplyDelete